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Posted: 04 June 2008 03:34 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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Posted: 04 June 2008 04:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Posted: 05 June 2008 02:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Hmm, can anyone explain to me what that soap and restful thing was about? I vaguely remember reading about SOAP in a OO PHP book somewhere. Might dig that up again.

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Posted: 05 June 2008 03:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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The SOAP vs REST comes down to REST request are using the HTTP protocol more directly than SOAP requests. If i get it right. The xml-rpc library is to make RESTful requests. NuSoap is a known library to make SOAP requests.
But I think other people could explain it better i don’t have much experience in that field.

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Posted: 05 June 2008 08:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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From what I could gather (and please correct me if I am wrong!) is that SOAP was becoming all popular as a way of communication between servers (we had to use it for working with some freight API) but now people are going BACK to REST principles as you generally dont always need the complexity of SOAP. SOAP from what I know works on top of the HTTP protocol where as REST is more native and therefore ‘more reliable’.

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Posted: 06 June 2008 12:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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Yes that is what i understand aswell. I want to correct a mistake i make: xml-rpc is the base for SOAP as it uses xml marked up data. So basically if you send your requests marked up with xml you are making SOAP(y) requests. If you use any other format they are RESTful requests.

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Posted: 06 June 2008 02:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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So stuff like JSON etc is REST, but loading xml files is SOAP (I’m talking Ajax atm.)

Anybody know what they stand for?

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Posted: 06 June 2008 03:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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I said basically because that is not entirely true. RPC and SOAP are message protocols that use xml as metadata. But the xml should be valid as defined in the the SOAP/RPC schema/doctype. So to nuance it; SOAP requests have to send/recieve valid SOAP xml data, most of the other requests are RESTful requests.

For the question of what they stand for, there is a little thing called search engines that can do miracle things wink

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Posted: 06 June 2008 04:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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xwero - 06 June 2008 03:33 AM

I said basically because that is not entirely true. RPC and SOAP are message protocols that use xml as metadata. But the xml should be valid as defined in the the SOAP/RPC schema/doctype. So to nuance it; SOAP requests have to send/recieve valid SOAP xml data, most of the other requests are RESTful requests.

For the question of what they stand for, there is a little thing called search engines that can do miracle things wink

Lol true. I don’t completely get it, but as long as I don’t need it, I guess I’m good for now :p

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Posted: 06 June 2008 09:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Dont really need to know the underlying principles that much - like how you can send emails and know how to and not need to know how smtp etc. works wink

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