linuxbz - 19 March 2007 02:36 PM

The Preface of Programming Perl AKA The Camel Book, says that the three great virtues of a programmer are laziness, impatience, and hubris.

wow , nice quote, i realy can relate

I like Kozuch’s attitude.

If i want to learn how to fix a sash window i would ask someone who had done it before to tell me about the gotchas and things to look out for. Fir instance. Should i make the weights out of lead like it say in the book? No, to save money, use highly trained mice and a pully system.

See what i mean?

I can understand wanting to just dive in, and I can understand the lazyness aspect.

For me the best way to be lazy, is to KISS, think about it first before I do it, then write it once properly without taking shortcuts. That way I don’t end up with mangled code that needs to be revisited often as then I’d find I’m doing more work than I need to and that would be dumb.

If you have some decent programming experience, picking up Php shouldn’t be too difficult, after the first two or three languages it gets much easier to learn a new one.

The biggest problem I have is forgetting what I’m writing in when I’m working on three or four apps in different languages all at the same time. C#, Perl, Php, Javascript, all similar enough to catch you out when you’re tired and trying to do something in a hurry.

Kozuch - 17 March 2007 08:20 AM

Hi,

does anyone know a good place to start learning how to develop in MVC based environment? I am a real newbie and dont even know almost any PHP at all.

I’m also a CI newbie, and I think CI’s implementation of MVC is very loose, so you don’t need to learn much.  After looking at a couple of CI applications, I think what you get out of CI are shortcuts.  You can still make calls to the database from anywhere in your application. You can totally bypass the model, etc. You can do whatever you want (in other words, breaking MVC), you just don’t have to write a lot of code to do it.

It’s quite different from Ruby on Rails.  If you want to see what a full-featured MVC framework is like, you should check out RoR, because in RoR you have to go through the model.  The model wraps the database.  It’s actually very beautiful.  I wish CI had something similar.